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two sides: one light, one dark

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , on May 15, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

although i had some issues with the pacing of “the incident” (along with a few questionable character motivations — mainly jack’s “i’m doing this for kate” tantrum), as i have had time to process the mythologies that it revealed, i am becoming more and more intrigued about “what it could all mean.” clearly the opening scene (my favorite moment) of the episode was important. i want to argue that it is the most revealing moment in the whole series. to recap:

oh, brother

oh, brother


BLOND MAN: Mornin’.

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: Mind if I join you?

BLOND MAN: [Shaking his head] Please. Want some fish?

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: Thank you. I just ate.

[The gray-haired man sits down not far away.]

BLOND MAN: I take it you’re here ’cause of the ship.

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: I am. How did they find the Island?

BLOND MAN: You’ll have to ask ’em when they get here.

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: I don’t have to ask. You brought them here. Still trying to prove me wrong, aren’t you?

BLOND MAN: You are wrong.

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: Am I? They come. They fight. They destroy. They corrupt. It always ends the same.

BLOND MAN: It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.

[The gray-haired man stares at his compatriot.]

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: Do you have any idea how badly I wanna kill you?


GRAY-HAIRED MAN: One of these days, sooner or later… I’m going to find a loophole, my friend.

BLOND MAN: Well, when you do, I’ll be right here.

GRAY-HAIRED MAN: Always nice talking to you, Jacob.

JACOB: Nice talking to you, too.

whoa dang. still get chills reading this. what is sort of outwardly displayed here are two forces: one is light and one is dark. jacob, with his sandy tresses and white linen and mr. nameless (although from here on in i will be referring to him as esau, jacob’s brother in the bible) with his dark, hairy demeanor and black shirt. two forces: one open, optimistic, progressive; the other angry, vengeful, pessimistic. oppositions are lost’s modus operandi, but it seems like all the point/counterpoint relationships we’ve encountered so far (jack vs. locke; ben vs. widmore; even kate vs. juliet) are mere blips on the radar compared with the two immortal collossi we have here.

for those of you who aren’t familiar/weren’t in a production of joseph and the amazing technicolor dreamcoat in seventh grade, in the bible jacob and esau are twin brothers. (twins are a concept already embedded in the mythology of lost with gary troupe’s bad twin, a book that came out as a companion to the series; supposedly, the author was aboard 815 with his manuscript about a mystery involving the hanso foundation. click on the link above or the lostpedia entry to read more). when the twin boys were emerging from their mother, rebecca’s, wombthe first that came otu was the hairy esau, whose heel was being clutched by the wily jacob. jacob eventually steals the birthright that esau had earned for being the first born. having made jacob a ruler over his brothers, their father, isaac could only promise, “by your sword you shall live, but your brother you shall serve; yet it shall be that when you are aggrieved, you may cast off his yoke from upon your neck.”

resentment between them runs deep (esau vows that he will kill his brother), so they split and start two different tribes. eventually, jacob moves his family to egypt to avoid a famine in canaan. egypt, you say?

anyway, that is my gross oversimplifying of this historic brotherly feud. yet, we all know that lost likes to play with these traditional themes in its overarching theme: is man naturally good or evil? can oen change one’s nature? what is the effect of the environment upon human nature? the above conversation seems to indicate to me that we have two brotherly forces who have been engaged in this debate for eternity. one tries to prove one’s point to the other until both sides are proven correct — a positive plus a negative yields neutral results — and they are back to square one; back to “reset.”

and, i think, this is exactly what happened in the finale.

now that we know that “locke” has not been quite himself this whole season (let’s call him locke 2.0), we have to call into question all of the “apparitions” we’ve seen in the series thus far. i certainly think that the esau figure could be all the apparitions/visions of people we’ve seen before. thinking back on it, visions on the island have always manipulated people to do bad things, i.e. christian, kate’s horse, dave. and remember that it was “christian” that told locke to turn the wheel and locke 2.0 who sent richard to tell locke he had to die.  

 esau assumes he’s won by having ben kill jacob (ben would be the ultimate exhibit on jacob’s side; the son killing his father), but then, simultaneously, jacob wins with his juliet victory in the past. before the episode, i was in the miles camp and thought that what jack’s plan was going to cause was the incident (“whatever happened, happened”). now, with the “two brothers” plot, i am thinking that juliet’s actions have changed the course of history. like they always say in schmaltzy sci fi — you can predict everything except for human emotions. so because she loved sawyer and because she had the power of choice she changed things. essentially, her love for sawyer could save them all.

 thus with both a jacob win and an esau win (however temporary), we are back to square one. the brothers are in a constant stalemate. maybe. as i’ve said before, i am willing to roll with the punches as long as those punches are entertaining. i could make the complete opposite argument that jacob is the dark and his brother, the light. while jacob’s “touchy-feely” encounters with the losties in their pasts seems to indicate that they are the chosen (and may just save them), he also provided the means for many of them to destroy their lives. he kind of told kate it was okay to steal; he gave sawyer the implement to begin his revenge obsession; he allowed nadia, the person that was keeping sayid “good”, to die. the scenes are deliberately ambigous. what dreams may come?  bring it on, season 6!

and yet, the two opposing sides, the “light” and the “dark” have been around since episode one. as iconic as the opening scene of “the incident” was, we also have the following scene from “the pilot: part two” where two different sorts of players had a similar conversation:

the light and the dark

the light and the dark

LOCKE: Backgammon is the oldest game in the world. Archeologists found sets when they excavated the ruins of ancient Mesopotamia. Five thousand years old. That’s older than Jesus Christ.

WALT: Did they have dice and stuff?

LOCKE: [nods] Mhhm. But theirs weren’t made of plastic. Their dice were made of bones.

WALT: Cool.

LOCKE: Two players. Two sides. One is light … one is dark. Walt, do you want to know a secret?

i can’t help but wonder what secret locke might have whispered in walt’s ear. what exactly did locke see when he looked into the eye of the island? and can the beautiful that exist there defeat the terrible, or will this cosmic tug of war last forever?

only time will tell.

namaste, friends. happy theorizing!

what a croc!

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , on May 14, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

along with many, many, MANY things that happened last night (many of which still have me reeling — locke 2.0, much), one thing that can be confirmed is that more of the four-toed statue is revealed. we’ve viewed him from the back and the profile and i’m hoping that sometime we might get a frontal view.

it is widely believed that our four-toed friend is the egyptian god sobek who is half-alligator, half-man. some sects believe sobek was the creator from the world and that he emerged from the “dark water.” cities in ancient egypt where water was important were particularly devoted to sobek, with one city even earning the nickname “crocodilopolis” (i’m there). this is what we saw last night:

jacob chomp chomp chomp

jacob chomp chomp chomp

here is a photo of an ancient sculpture of King Amenhotep with the god, Sobek:
hello, friend!

hello, friend!

(there is a better quality image of this statue over at artstor if you click the link above). this statue seems to be a good parallel for the mythology we saw last night; a god gently guiding a king. (reminds me of, perhaps, what ben may have experienced in the temple. jacob’s response to whiny ben was “what about you?” but maybe it was more of an existential question than a rebuff. it seems very possible that ben and jacob were once in communion with each other — when his “innocence was lost” in the temple — and perhaps they will be again).
more general information on this god, followed by links for further reading.
certainly plays into the whole good or bad theme, non?
“Sobek (also known as Sebek, Sebek-Ra, Sobeq, Suchos, Sobki, and Soknopais) was the ancient god of crocodiles. He is first mentioned in the Pyramid Texts and his worship continued until the Roman period. Some sects believed that Sobek was the creator of the world who arose from the “Dark Water” and created the order in the universe. Sobek was a god of the Nile who brought fertility to the land. As the “Lord of the Waters” he was thought to have risen from the primeval waters of Nun to create the world and made the Nile from his sweat. One creation myth stated that Sobek laid eggs on the bank of the waters of Nun thus creating the world. However, as well as being a force for creation, he was seen as an unpredictable deity who sometimes allied himself with the forces of Chaos. Sobek first appeared in the Old Kingdom as the son of Neith with the epithet “The Rager”. According to some myths his father was Set, the god of thunder and chaos, but he also had a close association with Horus.”

more info at: 

what DOES lie in the shadow of the statue?

Posted in Uncategorized with tags on May 14, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

some latin:

= ille qui nos omnes servabit

He who has saves us all


the man who will save us

c/o the fuselage linear board.
nice one, ricardo…

what lies in the shadow of the CRAP?!?!?!

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , on May 14, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

initial reaction: REALLY?! SERIOSULY?! REEEALLLLLLYYY?!?!??!?!

first theory of season 6:

new john locke = jacob’s compadre from the beginning of the episode. who is that? i’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s his brother. remembre that in the bible jacob had a brother esau, from whom he stole his birthright.


ps i love juliet. that was so horrible. YET, does her love for sawyer make her the variable? as we saw in this episode, jacob visited everyone except for juliet. who brought juliet to the island? ben. who did jacob always underestimate? BEN. note that in the bible benjamin is jacob’s youngest son. more thoughts tomorrow.

the incident, parts 1 and 2: sneak peeks

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , on May 13, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

okay, friends, here’s the last go round of pre-show previews. sneak peeks for “the incident: parts 1 and 2” are below. nothing too incendiary here, but enough to tantalize you for tonight’s proceedings. speaking of tonight’s proceedings, i’ve thought of live-blogging but i realize that when i have the lost superinformation station in front of me (aka a laptop) i miss crucial moments. i will, however, have my cell and will be taking texts/commercial break phone calls (obviously directed at people who know me personally). i also anticipate to hear from many of you at 11:02 (after 1 extra minute of lost, followed by 1 full minute of screaming). i will also post a very short reaction shortly following the episode where you can leave comments.

take a deep breath, everyone. the finale airs TONIGHT.

the incident: guest stars

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , on May 13, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

the teasers keep on coming! comprehensive list of guest stars in “the incident: parts 1 and 2”:

do you know what lies in the shadow of... my sketchy van?

do you know what lies in the shadow of... my sketchy van?

Sam Anderson Bernard Nadler
Emily Rae Argenti Young Kate
L. Scott Caldwell Rose Henderson
Nestor Carbonell Richard Alpert
Kevin Chapman Mitch
François Chau Dr. Pierre Chang
Jeff Fahey Frank Lapidus
Rylee Fansler Young Juliet
Colby French Uncle Doug
Andrea Gabriel Noor ‘Nadia’ Abed Jaseem
George Gerdes Mr. Springer
Jon Gries Roger Linus
Brad William Henke Bram
Agnes Kwak Aunt Soo
Eric Lange Stuart Radzinsky
Savannah Lathem Young Rachel
Tanner Maguire Young Tom
William Makozak Captain Bird
John Pete Prison Clerk
Zuleikha Robinson Ilana
Amy Stewart Mother
John Terry Christian Shephard
Michael Trisler Father
Titus Welliver Man #2
Armando Pucci Mr. Avellino

notes from darlton interview on totally lost

Posted in Uncategorized with tags , , , , on May 13, 2009 by eyeoftheisland

MORE teasers for tonight! doc jensen at ew posted his pre-thoughts for tonight’s finale as well as  a three-part interview with damon lindelof and carlton cuse. if you have a mo, i would suggest you watch the whole thing (packed with valuable info!), but if you need the essentials (as related to tonight) my notes are below.

quotes transcripted from the interview:

  • “Stating in the finale, learning what Ben really knows, versus what he is pretending to know.”

                         MY TAKE: is jacob real? is he an ethereal being? can you kill an ethereal being? is he LOCKE? (a theory i have had for quite some time). i think we will definitely learn WHO or WHAT jacob is tonight. PREDICTION #1.

  • “Vincent will be there to explain himself… and Rose and Bernard.”

                          MY TAKE: YESSSS! maybe vincent is jacob. ( maybe i just miss vincent. the producers have said that vincent will make it through the series. i wonder if he misses walt.

  • “We will know by the end of the finale what Locke’s intentions where and what his motives are.”

                           MY TAKE: we will find out why/how locke was resurrected and what that means. PREDICTION #2!

  • “More pieces to Locke-Ben dynamic.”

                           MY TAKE: as part of his path to redemption, ben will become the new richard and will serve as locke’s advisor. may the banter continue for eternity!

  • Cryptic teases:  1.“We’re going to see something very tall in this episode.” –Carlton

                           MY TAKE: the producers want you to think it’s the statue. so it obv cannot be. i predict this tall thing will be: a. a tall tale; some big huge lie or seemingly impossible event that will occur or b. a tall character of some sort. PREDICTION #3.

  • 2. “This episode is very touching.” (Knowing glance). “It’s a play on words. You think it’s going to be emotional, but it’s not going to be that kind of touching.” –Damon

                             MY TAKE: touching… locke will get to touch jacob. or someone will be required to set off the trigger of the bomb to make it go off. PREDICTION #4.

it’s a BIG DAY, FOLKS!